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Elisabetha Novy
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Posted - 2014.07.25 10:21:00 -
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Compressed ore is listed in game as comming from Compressed ore Blueprints where 1 unit of the compressed ore comes from a large number of regular ore.
In game refining yield of the compressed ore do not reflect this in any way: 100 uncompressed Arkonor yields 230 Megacyte, 6905 Tritanium, 1278 Mexallon, 115 Zydrine 1 Compressed Arkonor was made using 1000 uncompressed Arkonor according to in game documentation available (clicking the Compressed Arkonor leads to the blueprint details in the information window) It however delivers exactly the same amount of minerals as the 100 batch or uncompressed Arkonor
This while it should, according to provided documentation in this table: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/65852/1/Compressedore2.png
1 compressed Arkonor should instead yield 2300 Megacyte, 69050 Tritanium, 1147 Zydrine
My best guess is that something went wrong somewhere and that the 1 Compressed ore batch has been made to process as the standard 100 uncompressed Arkonor.
This failing perpetuates throughout the entire compressed ore reprocessing.
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Elisabetha Novy
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Posted - 2014.07.25 10:32:00 -
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So, the in game information window is wrong?
How can this be?
CCP expects me to keep track of out of game tidbits? |
Elisabetha Novy
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Posted - 2014.07.25 10:52:00 -
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Qoi wrote:
Reading the Patch Notes is one thing i personally recommend.
Having just re-read and re-re-read the patch notes I am either functionally impaired or it's not in the patch notes. |
Elisabetha Novy
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:34:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:
the compression batch size is not noted in the patch notes, however they link several times to the "reprocess all the things" dev blog that details the compression changes.
Yes, including this awsome chart http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/65852/1/Compressedore2.png
Which somehow became outdated by something I haven't been able to find yet.
So the most current patch notes refer to outdated information.
While I realise EVE is a tough game and love it for that, this one is a bit to far for me. |
Elisabetha Novy
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Posted - 2014.07.25 12:34:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote: Oh good lord, quit the whining. The rest of us seemed to mystically understand that ore is compressed in batches of 100 even without digging through the database, so yes, you missed it. And it's now been explained to you, so you have the answer so you know it's not broken and just an out of date description. So post it in the issues thread and get on with your life. If it's "too far" for you, then the door is over there, cya.
"Too far" refered to the level of difficulty. In this particular instance the level of difficulty in obtaining the correct information versus obtaining failty information was skewed in favor of incorrect information.
If incorect information is the easiest to obtain even when doing more research then can reasonably be expected of a user it's not a question of difficulty but rather of information supply.
I used in game information detailing compression batch sizes as well as the out of game information detailed in the post that the patch notes themselves refer to.
Both containing incorrect information.
The actual source I should have taken as gospel in this has not yet been named in this thread outside of a database dump. This skews the playingfield in favor of obsessive compulsive information gatherers and people in the know.
This hurts the game in the long run. Because, as you so aptly put it "the door is over there, cya". A comment that already clings to EVE online like a plague. I tried taking the door, it didn't open, so I disabled the captains quarters and bemoan ship spinning like a proper lass.
So don't confuse a desire to be provided correct information with whining. |
Elisabetha Novy
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Posted - 2014.07.25 16:41:00 -
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In game incorrect information is still being provided. Compressed ore information links to blueprint information still providing tenfold or more that actual compressed ore content.
The only sources containing actual numbers that has been provided here is a dev blog is labeled as "Starbase changes for Crius" and a database dump.
Eve University, however reputable, is not an actual game resource.
"Compressed ore and ice mechanics have been changed. They now give the same quantities as non-compressed ore and ice variants, but have reduced volume (please refer to the non-compressed ore and ice above for mineral outputs)"
Isn't exactly clear on what actually happens to the numbers of it all. Does one unit of ore yield the same output as one compressed unit of ore?
Nowhere in the patch notes are the actual numbers provided.
On a side note, what happened to stacks of compressed ore? Were they amended to represent the new values? So did one stack of compressed Arkonor become ten stacks? |
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